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Common questions and responses
This page aims to answer briefly some of the common questions that
readers ask me, particularly those stemming from criticism of the web
site. The questions and answers have all been drawn from the somewhat
lengthy collection of excerpts of
correspondence with various readers.
What is the purpose of this site?
To provide:
How did this site begin?
The full history is available here.
In brief, these pages began as a result of United's reluctance to
read what I had patiently written them following a series of
unpleasant flights in the spring of 1996. While my
initial letter to the airline complained about their lack of coordination
in rerouting passengers, not announcing a critical flight delay in
English, not being able to satisfy seating reservations made weeks in
advance, upgrading late arrival and standby passengers over others who
had already been inconvenienced, and mishandling of a garment bag, the
web pages resulted from United's lack of concern for customer relations
in not replying to my letter.
But why pick on United? They're no worse than any other airline.
First of all, this is far from the truth. United has
one of the worst records for safety,
on-time performance, mishandled baggage, and overall service
among the top 10 US carriers. More to the point, though, if all the
airlines have similar problems, then there is no reason why consumers
should continue to suffer in silence. One has to start somewhere, and
since my traveling companion and I were appalled by United's service,
that's where we've started. If United reforms and starts treating its
passengers with some respect, the other airlines will hopefully follow.
What effect have these web pages had on United?
Obviously, I have no way to gauge the direct impact of my web pages
on United Airlines. However, the success of the Untied site in
attracting the attention of UAL management, as well as encouragement from several UAL employees,
urging me to continue the efforts, is promising. Even if UAL
management does not make efforts to improve, at the very least, the
letters posted on my web pages are read seriously by a number of UAL
employees.
How many hits does this site receive per day?
While numbers fluctuate, since the spring of 2012, the site has been receiving an average of over 50,000 page loads and 40,000 unique visitors per month. Interestingly, at least when we last checked by domain IP, visits from United Airlines headquarters accounted for 1% of these visits!
Why are you making such a big deal about a minor complaint?
The many letters posted here by other
readers, chronicling their own misfortunes with United, make our own
experiences pale by comparison. However, I believe that if any
passenger feels disserviced by an airline, and takes the time to write
an earnest letter of complaint, offering some suggestions for
improvement, then they deserve to have that letter read and taken
seriously. In my case, it was clear that after two attempts to elicit
a serious reply from United, the letter-writing approach had failed.
At that point, I felt that the public had a right to know about
United's attitude towards its customers.
Didn't United apologize by sending you and your companion
travel vouchers for $100?
We didn't ask for travel vouchers; we asked for an apology. Based on
the form letter reply, it is clear that our letter of complaint was not
even read. Travel vouchers are really little more than an incentive to
letter writers to be repeat customers, urging them to spend thousands
of dollars more on the airline to which they were complaining. At any
rate, in the case of our own travel plans for the coming year, the
vouchers were completely useless.
Have you never been inconvenienced by your local grocery store or one of
your utility companies or a credit card company or had bad service at a
restaurant or hotel? Why are you singling out United?
Of course I have received bad service from other companies.
The difference, as I explained in my
letter to a United pilot is in the way these other companies
responded to a polite criticism of their poor service.
Don't you realize that airline employees have a difficult job dealing
with hundreds of passengers every day, many of whom are rude,
obnoxious, and arrogant?
This does not excuse their behaviour as described in the many stories
posted in these web pages. Certainly, many passengers are rude and
obnoxious, making outrageous demands on airline employees. These
individuals should not expect to be shown any more courtesy in return.
However, the many passengers who have been mistreated, through no fault
of their own, deserve something more from UAL than a form letter.
Are you saying that all United employees are rude and incompetent?
No, I note that United has many fine employees with highly
professional attitudes but unfortunately, the callous disregard shown
by UAL management, customer relations, and a number of other employees
toward the public, tarnishes the reputation these fine people uphold.
Moreover, a quick glance at the reports linked from the "Employees"
tab of the main page indicates that many
employees have been harassed, intimated, wrongfully terminated,
etc. by supervisors and management. Untied.com has grown to provide
these individuals with information resources as well.
You get what you pay for. Airline employees are paid as little as $6/hour
so that the airline can offer the low fares passengers seek. At those
rates, what do you expect?
First, as the Premier Class and Frequent Flyer
stories will attest, the poor treatment extends right across the
board, regardless of the fare paid. However, even with low fares, I
still expect that the airline will be honest about reasons for flight
delays, inform passengers of flight cancellations, allow passengers who
booked business class to fly that way, show a modicum of compassion for
passengers with special needs, allow anxious parents to find out the
whereabouts of their children when their flight is canceled, make
amends for blatant rudeness on the part of its employees, compensate
passengers for lost or damaged baggage, and for heavens's sake, pay
some attention to the helpful suggestions made by passengers! As has
been shown repeatedly, in many, many cases, UAL often doesn't.
Why don't you try to do something constructive rather than simply
criticize? (Alternatively phrased as, "Why don't you do something useful
with your time?")
My initial attempt to be constructive -- sending United
a polite letter of complaint with suggestions
for improvement -- was essentially ignored. Many other passengers
continue to face similar frustration. I hope and believe that
publicizing United's mistreatment of its passengers can only motivate
the company to improve. Fortunately, a good many readers do "get it". As one
contributor to the site wrote, "I am really glad too that there are
such amazing helpful caring people in the world, such as yourself,
that can help the good people in this world in dealing with the
predators and thieves such as United."
Aren't you catering to this "consumer is always correct" nonsense?
No, the consumer is not always correct. I receive many letters to
which my reply (when I started this site) was along the lines of,
"that wasn't United's fault." For those passengers, I suspect I
provided far more satisfactory feedback than United's customer
relations department, as I addressed their concerns individually, and
did so promptly. Keep in mind that I maintain this site as a hobby in
my spare time. Why can't United, which supposedly pays its customer
relations people to provide this service, do the same?
Isn't your complaint with the deregulation of air travel.
No, I believe that companies should treat their customers with respect
regardless of the level of governmental control over the industry.
But nobody's perfect. Don't we all make mistakes?
An honest mistake once in a while is quite understandable. However,
when "mistakes" are made with regular frequency, they become a problem
that warrants attention.
Why don't you have a section of your site for people who wish
to compliment United?
I have a criticisms page for people who take
exception to the contents of the Untied site. Of course, that is
really what the www.ual.com pages are
for. However, if United agrees to set up a section of their site for
people to post complaints, and makes efforts to resolve these in a
timely manner, then I would be happy to reciprocate.
I've flown hundreds of thousands of miles with United and never had any
bad experiences.
I'm glad to hear that. Fortunately, most passengers do manage to
complete their flights without incident, otherwise, the airline
would no longer be in business. However, a quick look at some of
the other letters this site
has received should indicate that your good fortune does not
extend to every United passenger.
Your website is out of date. Your complaints database doesn't include
complaints from the last month. You are missing the names of two new
United VPs. You haven't added a story about UAL's new slogan. The
airline industry statistics you quote are very old.
Maintaing this site is a formidable task that I have endeavored to
continue in my practically non-existent spare time. If there
are areas of the site in need of updating, please inform me and I
will add them to the queue. However, unless somone is willing to
offer funds for a part-time employee to take on the work, I cannot
provide any guarantees on timely updates.
With respect to statistics, however, I do try to remain current in
the interests of fairness. I depend on the U.S. Department of
Transportation's Air
Travel Consumer Report for much of this information; their
annual reports are only made available several months after each
year's end. In terms of criticism regarding my compilation of
safety statistics, please read
this information.
Common criticisms and responses